You begin with the possibilities of the material.
Well, I like way downtown near the Battery. I lived down there at this time and for, I guess, the following well, this is where I moved to uptown and I've been here for four years and this is 1965.
Very quickly a painting is turned into a facsimile of itself when one becomes so familiar with with it that one recognizes it without looking at it.
There was a whole language that I could never make function for myself in relationship to painting and that was attitudes like tortured, struggle, pain.
Pollock also... wanted one to be wrapped in the painting.
The only thing that I could get with chance, and I never was able to use it, was that I would end up with something quite geometric or the spirit that I was interested in, indulging in, was gone.
I think maybe chance works better in a situation like music because music exists over a period of time, and you don't maintain constantly the you can't refer back from one area to another area.
Oracle was I had started it I guess two and a half years ago, maybe even longer than that, closer to three.
One can see that a canvas is six feet by eight feet, say, quite accurately. But you can spend two minutes and think it's five, or thirty seconds and it's just a different bed for activities there.
If you don't have trouble paying the rent, you have trouble doing something else; one needs just a certain amount of trouble.
I'm sure we don't read old paintings the way they were intended.
I'm not so facile that I can accomplish or find out what I want to know or explore enough of the possibilities and a way of making a painting, say, in just one painting or two paintings.