Gutenberg and Richter were very great men.
You travel across the country, you visit departments, you give talks, you talk about the work at your laboratory - what's going on, what the opportunities are there - you talk about your own research.
When the first computers started to come in, we tried to digitalize the seismological equipment.
My attitude toward graduate students was different, I must say. I used graduate students as colleagues: I gave them the best problems to work on, and I encouraged them.
It's a difficult question of relations between people.
For my own personal growth I had to set out on my own.